What the Beck?

[Under-De(con)struction.]
OK, this actually works in the perspective of the way some use words.
As in De for Dem and destruction, and Con for conservative and construction. Heck even conservation. Oops. I think we get the flip-flop. Lack of perspective is the subject, and preemption the aim of their construction. This is a work in progress. I'm still chalking it up.

My friend Thrasymachus* is embedded in the above (con) link...
while our seemingly seemly nemesis might be lost in Flatland.

I have recently revamped my PBMP tetrahedron, to the Tetrahedron of Will or TOW. It all began with my reading of Plato's Republic, going on 40 years ago, and my presentation not in a Platonic solid form but in a Platonic pillar model. Justice being the point, with appetites, emotions, and intellect being the base. I cannot vouch for these as being my original tripod to the triangular pillar, but I more recently reconstructed this balanced purpose on the legs of Physics, Psychology and Philosophy coming together to evolve Justice, much as our constitution rests or rather works with the balance of three branches and rests or works on the people.

Words are sometimes only ideals, but in reality I must say they are always ideals, but in some they are missing the concept of perspective, if not even a dimension(or pun, just dimentioning it), and whether you seem left or right or middle the reality is not even in line or online with a spectrum. The Third Way might not even be enough of a perspective, but it is better than Linear Beck or my way or the highway. [It was purported to be the Clinton way in that the aim was a balance between the goals of the left and right of the political spectrum(Ideally to move the middle nontheless) but I might say that the Obama way is more balanced, and may point to answers that are not always just a balance between two extremes or even two parties, and many people understand that, even though we feel that our way might be better it is hard to let go of our ideals.

[I believe I have now finished construction of this post, but have yet to finish reading the first link, and my "What the Beck" referred to my own preemption or condescending reference in the previous post.]

* Thrasymachus: a character in The Republic, and nickname for a Neo-Con I know, who might more accurately be called a Beck Head, or Eon-Libertarian (which I just pegged). [I won't peg any meaning on the Eon part, only to say I(not quite) flipped Neo.]

[Disclaimer: My first use of the term phrase "What the Beck?" was just yesterday, and until I just googled it, I had no knowledge it was a YouTube Channel, and I only used it as a segue to MoveOn to other issues. A search also found the Daily Beast and Op-Ed references and I might have picked on the Countdown but not the Intelligent Design, but the Gee Oh Me Try is similar but I can't dig up that one.]

[UPDATE 3-17-10: The "seemingly" link does not quite buffer completely, and has moderate moments but lacks perspective and balance let alone appreciation of others or perspective**. It can certainly be understood why everything seems off balance, but it is another to have an intention to balance it or respect dynamics, human or natural.]


** pulled from second link in the context of Thrasymachus

Pardon My Lack of Follow-up

and maintenance or contributions to this blog, what with Facebook et al...

The cutting edges of something or other...
Overton and the political paradigm?
The Third Way taken to another dimension.  What with the Balkanization of the presidential race.
CUT AND PASTE:

There is nothing wrong with being fiscally conservative. http://www.newsweek.com/.../jerry-brown-saves-california...

I don't have a problem with the claim that it is not progressive enough, we have to get progressives to run and not argue the lesser of two evils is wrong.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s7tWHJfhiyo 

The problem is what I call the Overton False Dilemma(formerly the Overton Psychopathy)

http://political_progress_for_people.blogspot.com/search?q=overton

http://political_progress_for_people.blogspot.com/search?q=third+way+dimension

http://political_progress_for_people.blogspot.com/search?q=paradigm

http://political_progress_for_people.blogspot.com/search?q=Trump

http://wonkette.com/607454/to-all-you-nimrods-losing-it-over-hillary-clintons-public-and-private-positions

SEGUE:  wiki  dump  It's the filter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBU665nuEmA
Seth Meyer Tapper Kaine Trump Hotdog.....................  ^ nimrods.

Carry On Comment!

Borrowed from an AM1090 caller to one of the afternoon talk shows, the interesting dilemma of Karl Rove is his confessing apparently...

that he has no diary or record of his work with the administration.

This with his apparent plan to write a book, means...

either he has a very good memory or it will be in the fiction section.

Actually I just rearranged the caller's comment to my own taste in my usual way.

His point was that it takes "I don't recall" and all it's variations "off the table" when it comes to congressional investigations.
I would add
the only alternative
is straight to "the pen".

More lines of investigation on Rove history
For later read, not that I have read the above.
"...who know what"
Democrats vow...
political fighter
Picking Bush's Brain ?
...avoid Capitol Hill
WaPo editorial

[pause]
Clinton, Rove's candidate in '08
U.S. Attorneys
First Read
Divider

[Having just read the last one first, it is a reminder that his nickname "turd blossom" is something that survives in a field of fertilizer.]

[Second thoughts on First Thoughts from First Read: There should NEVER be another Karl Rove. It is a cheap shot and a Vast Right Wing Conspiracy to promulgate such a character [italics and link added 8-15-07]by looking for the next one.

At least they admitted that "they" (the media) create them (the turd blossoms), but of course there will be, on the Right, as several of his (Rove's) proteges are distributed amongst the Republican candidates. But on The Left there is too much distribution of brains to get away with anything like what the administration has so far distributed. Genius should be about what works, and nothing much has, with this administration, except accumulation of ruin and power. * [it.a.l.a. 8-15-07]
Shame on MSNBC for such work. There is some good news on the new Hillary ad, but to follow with a piece on Rove? And while running the bottom line, "the next Karl Rove" under "her inner Bill".]

* [8-15-07 Re: David Frum link "and power", reminiscent of Lakoff where he points out that the difference between Democrats and Republicans is that the former run to govern, and the latter govern to run. That may say as much about governing as running, and as much about the left as the right, but rather than looking for a third way in the middle of any political spectrum, maybe the perspective [way to see it] is from above the plane, while a plane requires a third perspective that is not in line.]

[ bold italics added 3-12-08]

"intolerable truths"

are what Pat Buchanan called Ron Paul's "extraordinary statement" which is what Rudy Giuliani called them.

I will also note that Ed Schultz claims the possibility of more than a third party. Earlier I had noted the contrast between Ron Paul and Lyndon LaRouche in their coming to a party with a different approach, but Ed finds the immigration bill as a potential for break outs. Meanwhile I forgot to mention the "break ins" of Fred Thompson and Newt Gingrich. Not to mention Mr. Inconvenient Truth himself.

But I would suggest that some of the candidates talk about merging their tickets. Now that would present it's own difficulties but no more than Democrats and Republicans splitting off from their "party" for a Unity08.

Maybe the debates could be shuffled to facilitate some mixing up. Bloomberg/Sanders Hagel/Liebermann
Now I know I'm mixed up, but just in the break down. It was mainly a combination of some independents thrown in with some Unity08 potentials.

FOR ME TO READ LATER MAYBE:
The Year of the Third Force by Howard Fineman
A Third Way? by Elenor Clift

MY EARLIER TAKES
ONE (see Fourth Way)
and TWO "the voodoo that y$$ do"

PRESIDENTIAL PROFILES

TO THE RIGHT?
MY LIST OF LINKS HAVE BEEN MODIFIED.

PRESIDENTIAL PROFILES - LINK
HAS BEEN ADDED
AND
LOCAL POLITICS

AND

LOCAL MEDIA
ARE NEW TITLES.

[* 3:12 PM UPDATE: What I believe: Obama
and the Republicans need a Link like Presidential Profiles: HERE IS MSNBC'S THE CONTENDERS
But not necessarily a NEW third party or Unity '08. Even though it depends on how the parties actually get things done, it could be just another "Third Way" which is just the middle of what we got and will get more of the same. The winner take all construction of the whole process mitigates against a third party, except as a broker or a spoiler. Forces of good, rather than unity, should pick a side and influence it, but even that has pragmatic problems in that the good is divided. On the other hand: upon further "hard work" they may be able to be just that broker. So rather than the spread of Second Lives, maybe a Fourth Way, is upon us, but it will depend upon the actions/reactions of candidates as well.]

Unity 08 / Bloomberg

NOT!

But not necessarily a NEW third party or Unity '08. Even though it depends on how the party actually gets things done, it could be just another "Third Way" which is just the middle of what we got and will get more of the same. The winner-take-all construction of the whole process mitigates against a third party, except as a broker or a spoiler. Forces of good, rather than unity, should pick a side and influence it, but even that has pragmatic problems in that the good is divided. On the other hand: upon further "hard work" they may be able to be just that broker. So rather than the spread of Second Lives, maybe a Fourth Way, is upon us, but it will depend upon the actions/reactions of candidates as well.]

[The above is an edited version from my earlier post and I will add that the action/reactions of the candidates is a reference to not just the major party candidates, but those that choose to wander.

Of course Bloomberg was the topic of the last post. Here are a few random notes. Unity 08 has an opinion on the New York Mayor's run from the Republican party.

Local: Progressive blogging at Horsesass.org gives a perspective on Washington State issues.

National: Huffingtonpost.com must also be noted. And some media studies matter at Mediamatters.org

Hit and Run or Quick Comment on the news.
Tag! You're it.

Footnotes Page December 2014(Page One)

12-1-14 The Un-Revolved(~) Thread: (bottom up-4) (C): Schiller, Schelli.ng, Shell Lacking and Schopenhauer*? , Kobayashi Maru, (c) What are the Frackin' Odds..., (d) One of my readers, (e) Speaking of Timing,  Canard Lines, Catching Up with US., Post-Pyth?
(V): (Vienna), Post-Pyth? (3) Ludwig Wittgenstein - Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus - Preface,

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(2) "The Plausibility of Wittgenstein's Metaphilosophy" - Timothy Williamson & Paul Horwich, (1) Wittgenstein
 
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12-2-14 War on Hillary[!] OW ! Monkey Business Hmmm. (FP2)

12-3-14 Maybe you had to be there(FP1). [Which is actually here, see anamoly @ (3) and below when scrolling this all.)] It is likely I accidently clicked on a function or blogspot instruction, that I am unaware of. Pardon my muchado about anomaly.  The point was to review the day and reference the points, as color coded under ROY G BIV. As to more under Hillary I refer to the geometrics of the Third Way or monkey business of recent posts. I seem to have mucked ~~~~up~~~~ enough for now.  

12-4-14: ebb:War on Hillary[!], of:Hump Day?, war:WOW, (b.s.)... raven, (b.s.)[!] football  NO! Jung on the Enantiodromia!
12-5-14: to Pun on the 5th scroll / over *scheduled post*=today. Above * = yesterday. i.e. 4 FP more than the **  issue or weak[!] ~week~. (FP2)*
12-8-14: post - posted
(FP 12-9-14)
12-10-14: a. , b. , C. Pluto, Plato, and the Pen Dull'em , D. Failure is always ,  e. Go Left Young Man!, F. Slippery Slope

12-15-14:  on Saturday the 13th no post, but 15th update. 

12-29-14 (of the): A. Para-model, b. The Billy Club..., c. Why OWS is bigger than Left vs. Right., d. The Curve or Nuance Thing, e. THANK YOU DAVE ROSS! , f. Turning the page (On Humor)? , g. Turning the Page (2.0) h. Bush the United , I. What the Beck? , j. No Teddy , k., (l.) Unity Hits Reality, (m.) Throwing the Game (note font size A. & I. = Normal Ctrl F "of the left")
** or muddle is the hume or...
( comparison) : A. The Billy Club..., B.Genre Clash, C.
(gravitas): A. 4Mat, B. Way, Too Point Oh?, C. Or ask for a third, D. Funneling Crisis?
ticket: A. Hump Day? , B. The New Compendium , C. Primary Boogeyman , D. Not to make light... , E. Monkey Business , F. The Hope'd4 Campaign , G. ( ), H. Not to Follow-Up... , I. The other ground game... , J. What Obama can't say. , K. Checking In: , L. Two Wrongs Make a Right? , M. Churned Media , N. Republicans can't run against congress anymore. , O. Co-Op-Ed , P. Where does this fit? , Q. On any given day? , R. Post "don't ask, don't tell"^ ?   (...)

Nadir

or Bane or...

Enhanced State of the Union,
Republican Response,
and the Third Way?**

With minimum of rhetoric I have filtered of sorts. Boy, was it hard work! Googling* is not easy. I tried to find "fair and balanced" sources, but these
were the ones I chose to settle on. There is more than irony in the way the searches worked, or is there? Some might call it a conspiracy. But others might wish for a 4th dimension.

* or any search engine depending on the words chosen
(and original intent) as original viewing was CNN but sometimes it is not just me.

** 1-26-11

[1-26-11 Woof! Ratings are now in for the SOTU, and here are two ecumenical references. Rachel Maddow, a "prayer for the free-market" from as Joe Scarborough put it "the Cardinal". Who let the CEO's out! Speaking of "genre" note the connection to CNN. My bad, I can't located any embedded references in by blog to a recent Republican Debate sponsored by CNN, but it may be there somewhere. But this does link to the question of the genre of the networks.]

Image processing

Backing Ryan:

Democrats have simplified their message saying the Republican plan, your plan, kills Medicare. What is the shortest clearest response to that, from you? "Obamacare kills Medicare as we know it."

Obviously they must know it differently* than it has been known.

Meanwhile my Re:Verb image has not yet returned. But it could have only been symbolic for the back and forth(give and take), need for another perspective, other than the third way**.

*apples and oranges
** generally known as the Clinton way, aiming for the middle of the political spectrum (when the target might not be in the middle, but above the bottom line***)

*** rhetorical geometrics of give and take in the political forum
[Speaking of image processing.]

The Forth Way

To pun on the third way and forgo the geometricks[!] 


It was about the political spectrum and aiming for the middle.  One could take the left and the right and go for the middle.  My point was that the answers are not necessarily an amalgam or in the middle.  Though there may be the Trump Beck Rapport ala the Overton Window?*



However, vis a vis 4going the numbers, I simply file these:
Center for American Progress
Our Future**






*TBA or DBA (The Platonic Frame)
** aka TPF (The Peripheral File)^






^ email updates (or Curds and Wey?)

Speaking of timing

Or counting (or FOX)and follow-up(I could swear there are 6 legs unless it is on the other hand*.)
{italics not fully read yet but it is the point of departure}
{the point of arrival is not always originally intended, or that is the question.}
{note on labels, Navigation is regarding the blog, Navigation II is regarding our course changes. Maybe I should add Navigation III(a combo?).}
(Oh, and a leed change is also a challenge...to read)
* Third Way is point of tangent
[Maybe Thom Hartmann(AM1090) is coming to a realization, which I just missed(taking a call) regarding the power of Obama and his base and secondary potential thread. My points here are: Obama's base is not the liberal left. The Right's loss is the Left's loss, but the middle's gain.(I just coined** that.) My original metaphor*** was, as Republicans lose voters, they become more concentrated, while as Democrats gain voters they are diluted. ]
** critics please pick a better word for this new paraphrase of my original concept, other than coined, is in not that it is not making money for me, but I am just not sure that you coin a phrase. "turned" may suffice.
*** actually a metaphor would have a concept like Lemonade or Kool-aid as an ingredient, which apparently I have previously avoided saying directly at least.
[Still needing to read the italics link, Thom Hartmann and callers are still frustrated, and discuss the Marxist concept that things have to fail first. I am uncertain that is technically a valid name for it, but my point is that dynamically it will not work that way on two counts. It would take people who want it to fail(whatever it is) and it would take people giving up on changing it. That is why peace is much harder work than war, and why it is much harder and slower to make progress than to see the same things again.]
[Post-Pre-emptive Comment: or rather footnote regarding bubbles and cliffs and easing the wall down. Post Hartmann comment: one of my tangents was inspired by the concept of not enough mentionalism, a pun on the dimension of perspectives and whether there are two parties, or three or four or whether the labels matter. But the more the merrier or at least the more the discussion and the bigger the table.]
[Post Building on Change update: "That is why peace is much harder work than war, and why it is much harder and slower to make progress than to see the same things again." Bold added above, but link back provided as promised here.]
[Just in...Breaking or rather Re-Creating the mold: and I am only up to the word "defecit" in Steve Clemons question but I am having a feeling it relates to my just bolded and repeated quote in last bracket, and to wrap this up before it is too diffuse I seems to build upon earlier comments if not leeds.]

Long Story

Short :  The Clash
Mission Impossible.

Not to 4close this post, but an earlier mental riff came on threes.
Third times a charm.
The third way.
Good/Bad things come in threes.
More often the latter.
And before I insert any links in this a4mentioned riff, here are four.

The Table
Republican Flip Flop
Machine Killing Medicare
The Mess I uh[?]

Oops!
Original In Tent.
(see MKM)*

Now 4 the 3.
Not only to note the passing in 3's,
but to bring it down a level,
not to be Dante'in,
but polarizing,
with Hitch'n the middle. **

* Geo Me Tricks
** not my original link to get to the Hitch
but as moderator of poles, or Czechs.

[update]
[not]
[or knot]

< previous post >

Black Lives Matter

Hillary
Bernie

Trump
no trump ?*

file this **

*the Summer of Trump
** Amazon Culture

8-18-15:  GPST
Donald Trump geometers like a third grader. (^)

Speaking of Self-tense.  OW: Geo-Political Self Tents?
Sub-reference:  Putting perspective in one's own frame. 

Not to take my own tangent, but Hillary and Bernie are under pressure from many angles to craft their message so that it matters to the perspective of their critics.  Nothing should take away from the words in this heading.  Trump is another case of geometry at work***, formerly known as triangulation of the third way. 

Back to what matters!?  Do they feel the Bern?  The operable "they" being the parties and campaigns, it is good exercise, or in some cases exorcise.

*** culture at work? (see: file this / bridging the law of intended consequences?) **
[Tea Party / Trump Party? 50 state scream? Why is there no Colbert of the Right?]

[As a not so side note: I cannot believe it has been a year since Ferguson. (~)
BTW:  having been on somewhat of a successful sabbatical(correction: hi8us), there is a gap in my coverage as well as my social net.]

(^) not to be technical, but not sure of the grade
(BLM: budgets literally me~de~8!)

Genre Clash

or Mutation?

FOK'rs (Friends of Keith'rs) were noted on the...STEPHANIE MILLER SHOW, along with a rumor from above. Un...like the fabled "unexpressed thought".*





* not to make fun of dog killers, only the forum of Tucker's in second video
[and I did not mean to rhyme]
[and for "some people", genre refers to the medium(& mutation) of the mess age.]
[for others...]
[ and back to the future...express]***

*** this is an overpass to the "turn" spike [With the parsing of the great genre in Keith, the rise of the Young Turks, Matthews is the Oddball in my book. Too cute by half, but not these haves.

[Afternoon update, from my Oddball book, aka Edutainment and speculation, from Ed Schultz the President Obama's 5 year "in non-security, discretionary spending" budget freeze: actually the speculation is mine that many things can be on the table as security and many others are not as discretionary. But it may be a Peter, Paul and Robin' hood scenario. AKA a spin on our past presidents. But seriously or rather flippantly, the book is also about false equivalents. Rachel is no Jon Stewart, Olbermann is no Glenn Beck, Matthews is no "fair and balanced", and Ed Schultz is no Rush, though he does get flush at times. It is about the dialogue, even if it is grand sitting at times.]
[And an earlier crack at the table...aka footnotes of pre-ignition.**]

** and this is an achronistic asterisk i.e. just have to make sure that there are three, and to note that the Mutation link and all that follows was based on only seeing the first few minutes of The Daily Show. [Achronistic is timely in a third way as the third asterisk is placed earlier and regards another post. Not this one though. (At least in toto and one sitting.)]
[Parting asterisks of "past presidents" I like Teddy. Oh Bear Man?]

[1-28-11 Update]

Third Time's The Charm

[Finally posted 3-14-11 ]
Three times lucky? Actually I have not been lucky in finding the origin of the first, but I have been several times knocked off course. Just as I wrote this the news was noting the passing of a local law enforcement officer who had three centers of gravity, friends, family and work, so is that the message? "Every cloud has a silver lining" has also recently infiltrated my blog. That is credited roughly to John Milton and Katty Macane.

Numbers may play a big part in superstitions, but they also may play a big part in meanings. Past, present and future is just one case for threes, though not necessarily in that order, and this is not just to play with words. Of course if superstitions play any part in society, they will play a part in words, and words play a part in meanings, but which comes first? Some of this math and meandering came to my attention in regards to politics. Have you heard of the third way? The Clinton Adminstration was the first occasion I became aware of it in a political form, not that I had done the math in regard to other departments. But basically there are the two ends of the political spectrum and then there is the centrist. But is it the people, the target or the answers that are there? Or is it target, people or answers...who knows? However at this time I intend to apply it to the topic of navigation, or at least The Myth of Triangulation and wonder if a silver lining plays into any of this. While it is plane* to see where three plays into many things, it should suffice to read Robert Reich's article yourself as I have now read it twice. But I have yet to revisit the concept of navigation itself or any application of the tetrahedron to other perspectives of improving on our picture.

*pun on points

Divide to conquer?

Or back fire*?

This is a geometrical analysis of the partisan nature of politics.  We are familiar with the terms Fiscal and Social Conservative. But then there is the un-like Ike wing** and the Atlas Shrugged foundation or ^ fountain.  Here I may have already divided, to fight on.  I will try to keep the links and notations down. 

From what was earlier work on The Third Way, akin to the moving the center off the absolute, the moderate left seems to be moving the country.(See 1st link).  But is more than about geometrics of the left and the right and there being a middle.  If conservatives have branches(BTW the gov meant has three^^^); the FC and the SC (owe the irony oar^^), is there a third or more? 

A "friend" is counting on either a Tea Party, Conservative or Republican landslide this year.  But I am concerned with how branches work and how if there were already two, how Godwin[!] might play[?] Which is a sarcasm[!]slash[?]tangent on the hazzards of branching.

* not to target
** un-like Ike (USC)
Tin Foil Herman
R.S.V.P.
Mmmm MOW, MOW

^ oar shrug heads?(sc)
^^ paddle Fiscal Cliff and (YOU)Scroll Click or NEO-CONservative bent

[!] punctuation mark for irony/sarcasm/rhetorical***

*** anachronistic inserts [Francis Fukuyama was in the crowd that plowed the field and half regrets it.]
^^^ 3-body fig Newtons.or Phig Physics

BTW: USC is one of my alma maters.  UW the other.  But here I play on the initialism of "You Scroll Click" and Al Gore Rhythms and anomalies of the (b.s.) blog search[!]   

Final Note: Under wiki of Divide And Conquer ? [!] (or pyth helmet ?)

Go Hawks !

Truth Tellers

Thom Hartmann notes that the truth teller of the Democrats is Kucinich and for the Republicans it is Ron Paul, who notes the history of the Republican party as against wars. And thanks to a quick google, the first few paragraphs hits it out of the park **. "Way out", as it is put there. Or a slam dunk if you will.

That was still the situation when Clinton was president and even when the current Bush was campaigning against being nation builders and policeman to the world. Another point in this regard is that old Bush in a China Shop metaphor where:
when we broke it, we don't own it, but we might pay for it.

Final note: On Unity08 plans for a bipartisan ticket, I think it is crazy or at minimum won't work. Now, not that it won't succeed. But not necessarily for the country. It really is hard to take a negative attitude with something that seems so middle of the road, but then if we put the people in the middle of the road, they may just get run down. OK! So metaphors may not work, but the may make a point, and getting somewhere that has a point is the "hard work". There! Does that make any progress on the point. Well it may just be going round and round, but that may be another result, not that I am trying to get the geometry covered. But now that I have run that into the ground, I will take a tangent and note that there may be room for dialogue on the third party or third or fourth way. Dialogue and debate is happening within each party. If there are any outliers. Those hanging back; LaRouche (may get the point); Nader (I am not so sure); Bloomberg or Hagel; or not lastly Wesley Clark. But above we have noted, and I believe I recall now that my comparison (if not noted earlier) was between Ron Paul and LaRouche rather than Kucinich, that there are certain mavericks but at least they are participating now. I would harken back to my point about Red and Blue America and the threat to the green. It must be noted that "at the risk of being obvious" must have been too deep and the PI editors* changed my word "green" to "color" which put a completely different tint on my letter. My point is that Unity08 may be more about the green and may not get us out of seeing red.

*(In the last line of "the threat to the green" link, which may have been a threat to someone's green, if not not black and white enough to fit their grey matter.)

**11:35 AM amended [six paragraphs to be precise, I had not read much beyond "To many people, however..." and that is where we must remember the words of Rudy Guliani, on or shortly after September 11th, something like: Aren't you glad George Bush is president? Case closed. These guys cannot fight or debate without misconstruing the point or the enemy, period. Black and white enough?]